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		<description>There are just so many different scenarios of &quot;how the crash will play out.&quot; Sometimes my head swims. I can sometimes feel bits of panic. For instance, when I read this post, I thought, &quot;Oh no! I dropped out too early! I&#039;ll never acquire the means to get to New Zealand!&quot; But then all the competing (and credible) scenarios return to me, and I calm down.

I just don&#039;t know how it will all occur. For today I am concentrating on maximizing my adaptability. I do have some expectations. I think it will be a slow crash, with time to find out where &quot;St. Rose&quot; is and to try to get there.

Posted by: casemeau &#124; 09/07/2006

I&#039;m starting to think NZ would indeed be the best place, at least if you were able to avoid the depredations of the Wellington regime while it lasts. Certainly there are a lot of wilderness areas unsuitable for agriculture and plenty of food sources. If you were in the right place and had a simple pig trap, leghold traps for possums and hand lines for eels, you could live like a king with minimal effort, especially after all the sheeple have starved to death.

Posted by: Cornfed &#124; 09/07/2006

http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/46053

The recent AskMe included lots of reasons why New Zealand may be a very BAD place to wind up. I&#039;m also afraid of the Pacific Northwest, where all the &quot;peak-aware&quot; folks seem to be flocking. It may end up being the one place on earth with a post-collapse population problem because of that!

Posted by: Jason Godesky &#124; 09/07/2006

The queston about peak-aware folks is are they predominantly the gun-toting bunker mentality types or have they cottoned onto the idea of community yet? Pesonally I think the gun-toting peak aware types are going to be more of a worry than joe average who will be totally caught by surprise by peka oil.

I&#039;m not sure I agree with the analyisis of NZ that you mentioned. The biggest (unique) problem we face will be clilmate change in that we can only go so far south. To say low-lying farmland is a problem is to assume a MASSIVE and rapid rise in sea level. I know we&#039;re named after a part of the Netherlands but it wasn&#039;t because half the country is below sea level - or anything like it.

Posted by: Aaron &#124; 09/07/2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are just so many different scenarios of &#8220;how the crash will play out.&#8221; Sometimes my head swims. I can sometimes feel bits of panic. For instance, when I read this post, I thought, &#8220;Oh no! I dropped out too early! I&#8217;ll never acquire the means to get to New Zealand!&#8221; But then all the competing (and credible) scenarios return to me, and I calm down.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t know how it will all occur. For today I am concentrating on maximizing my adaptability. I do have some expectations. I think it will be a slow crash, with time to find out where &#8220;St. Rose&#8221; is and to try to get there.</p>
<p>Posted by: casemeau | 09/07/2006</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think NZ would indeed be the best place, at least if you were able to avoid the depredations of the Wellington regime while it lasts. Certainly there are a lot of wilderness areas unsuitable for agriculture and plenty of food sources. If you were in the right place and had a simple pig trap, leghold traps for possums and hand lines for eels, you could live like a king with minimal effort, especially after all the sheeple have starved to death.</p>
<p>Posted by: Cornfed | 09/07/2006</p>
<p><a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/46053" rel="nofollow">http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/46053</a></p>
<p>The recent AskMe included lots of reasons why New Zealand may be a very BAD place to wind up. I&#8217;m also afraid of the Pacific Northwest, where all the &#8220;peak-aware&#8221; folks seem to be flocking. It may end up being the one place on earth with a post-collapse population problem because of that!</p>
<p>Posted by: Jason Godesky | 09/07/2006</p>
<p>The queston about peak-aware folks is are they predominantly the gun-toting bunker mentality types or have they cottoned onto the idea of community yet? Pesonally I think the gun-toting peak aware types are going to be more of a worry than joe average who will be totally caught by surprise by peka oil.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I agree with the analyisis of NZ that you mentioned. The biggest (unique) problem we face will be clilmate change in that we can only go so far south. To say low-lying farmland is a problem is to assume a MASSIVE and rapid rise in sea level. I know we&#8217;re named after a part of the Netherlands but it wasn&#8217;t because half the country is below sea level &#8211; or anything like it.</p>
<p>Posted by: Aaron | 09/07/2006</p>
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